# I'm new to EndNote and desperately in need of help **URL:** \ **Category:** EndNote How To\ **Created:** [July 19, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.endnote.com/t/im-new-to-endnote-and-desperately-in-need-of-help/291162 "2011-07-19T13:15:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sheriam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@sheriam](https://community.endnote.com/u/sheriam)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.endnote.com/t/im-new-to-endnote-and-desperately-in-need-of-help/291162/1 "2011-07-19T13:15:45Z")
Hi you all, I don’t even know where to begin. 1. I need to cite several translated versions of Miguel de Cervantes _Don Quijote_, some of which, to complicate matters even more, I got from google books. I have no clue how to fill in the reference in order to obtain the wanted result. The outcome should be something like this: Bertuch, Friedrich Justin (1775): _Leben und Thaten des weisen Junkers Don Quijote von Mancha. Neue Ausgabe, aus der Urschrifft des Cervantes, nebst der Fortsetzung des Avellaneda_. In sechs Bänden, Erster Theil. Wien und Prag: Franz Haas. Digitalisierte Ausgabe von Google Books ([http://books.google.com/books?id=8EREAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP7#v=onepage&q&f=false](http://books.google.com/books?id=8EREAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP7#v=onepage&q&f=false)) Sohle, Pahsch Basteln von der (1648): _Don Kichote de la Mantzscha, Das ist: Juncker Harnisch auß Fleckenland_. Franckfurt: Thomas Matthias Götze. This is how we use to write endnotes at my university (style-wise), but: - I’m not sure, what style this is - where to fit in the author of the original, i. e. translated book - how to create the reference so that I will obtain this output 1. I also use several newspaper articles from online editions and I really don’t know how to cite these. An example would be this article: [http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30351/don-quijote-im-wort-bleiben-30074729.html](http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30351/don-quijote-im-wort-bleiben-30074729.html) Do I cite these as web-sites? Newspaper articles? Who is who and what is what? I mean, I got an author, but who would be the publisher, editor, etc? What I managed so far is: Ingendaay, P. (2008). “Im Wort bleiben.” [FAZ.net](http://FAZ.net). Retrieved 18.07.2011, 2011, from [http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30351/don-quijote-im-wort-bleiben-30074729.html](http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30351/don-quijote-im-wort-bleiben-30074729.html). Please, I would really appreciate if somebody could help me. Oh and I use EndNote X4 Thanks so much, Sheriam ---
**Author:** ![sheriam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@sheriam](https://community.endnote.com/u/sheriam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://community.endnote.com/t/im-new-to-endnote-and-desperately-in-need-of-help/291162/3 "2011-07-20T09:53:51Z")
Thanks a lot Leanne! That’s a lot of information to work through 🙂 Not being able to manipulate the output style is exactly one of my problems. But with the example you posted I think I might manage. I’ll also try those tutorials. I’m not sure whether the department at my university will be able to point out a certain output style they use and which I might then find in endNote. I  guess they’ll rather show me example bibliographies, so I’ll have to find a style that’s similar and then adapt it. So I guess I better learn to do this and fast 😉 Thanks again, Sheriam ---
**Author:** ![sheriam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@sheriam](https://community.endnote.com/u/sheriam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.endnote.com/t/im-new-to-endnote-and-desperately-in-need-of-help/291162/5 "2011-07-20T13:45:08Z")
I managed to adapt your version of Chicago 16th B and I am now satisfied as far as style goes, so: a thousand thanks again 🙂 (Just have to check in with my professor to ask whether she prefers a “original author, title, translation by…” citation or a “translator, translated title, publication details, translated author, translated title” citation.) The results I am now getting are: for books: Tieck, Ludwig (1966): _Leben und Taten des Scharfsinnigen Edlen Don Quixote von la Mancha_. Berlin: Rütten & Loening. Erste Publikation, 1799-1801. Digitalisierte Ausgabe, bereitgestellt von [Zeno.org](http://Zeno.org), URL: [http://www.zeno.org/nid/20004644700.](http://www.zeno.org/nid/20004644700.) Übertragung des spanischen Originals von Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra (1605): _El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quixote de la Mancha_ for online- newspaper articles: Ingendaay, Paul. (2008): “Im Wort bleiben.” Review zu Susanne Langes Neuübersetzung des Don Quijote. _[FAZ.net](http://FAZ.net)_, Onlineausgabe der _FAZ_ (letzter Zugriff: 17.07.2011). URL: [http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30351/don-quijote-im-wort-bleiben-30074729.html](http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30351/don-quijote-im-wort-bleiben-30074729.html) These are the only two fields I modified so far. I guess the “code” is a bit messy but as far as it gets me the desired outcome…^^ Only problem is that I don’t quite understand, yet, how to optionalize text. That is, I only want it to give out  “Übertragung des spanischen Originals von” if there is data in the “Translated Author” field. Same goes for “URL” I’ll attach my modified style and it would be really nice if you could help me solve this last riddle 🙂 Thanks and greetings Sheriam [Chicago 16th B -translator-url.ens](https://community.endnote.com/uploads/short-url/tC7SLl1Rr9vbyAX3Vy7rbFvrhUz.ens) (28.1 KB) ---
**Author:** ![sheriam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@sheriam](https://community.endnote.com/u/sheriam)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.endnote.com/t/im-new-to-endnote-and-desperately-in-need-of-help/291162/7 "2011-07-20T14:19:50Z")
Ah, I guessed it had something to do with these bars but couldn’t figure out where exactly I’d have to place them. And the little diamonds, I wuld never have figured them out, was wondering about them all the time^^ so thanks, I really appreciate your help a lot Sheri