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Several bugs with Apple Pages (5.6) and EndnoteX8 combo

I am using Apple Pages (v5.6 on OX 10.11.6) with Endnoe X8 for assisted citations in my Pages documents. Nice thing, and works pretty reliably, if it weren't for the following bugs. I am using APA-formatted citations.

 

1. First names are showing up for a few in-text citations, which is a bug. This seems to happen for authors that are cited with more than one reference (f.e., a work from 1994 and 2003)

2. Phantom biblio: In the automatically created Bibliography list, a few references show up which are NOT cited in the text. They cannot be removed. I tried adding the wrong referene as a citation and again removing it, but the wrong reference remains in the bibliography.

3. In the automatically created Bibliography list, some books do show up formatted incorrectly with missing italics in their title. The format is correct in Endnote's preview. I can not find any distinct difference with in the book references that could explain why some show up with italics titles, and others do not.

4. In the automatically created Bibliography list, paragraph indention is missing. The format is correct in Endnote's preview. Problem can be fixed by manually changing the paragraph formatting – when done with the paper, because: Any manually formatting gets lost as soon as one in-text citation is inserted/updated.

5. The automatically created Bibliography list cannot be manually edited. Edits are required though because Endnote's APA citations are partially incorrect, e.g. with capitalization of countries, names, acronyms in article titles, or publications with both original year and re-published year.

 

Does anybody have ideas on how to fix these issues?

My workaround for the Bibliography for now is to copy the text, then delete the automated Bibliohraphy and paste in the text once for edits. Of course, this only works when all citations are definitely done for good. It does not help issue #2.

 

Issue #1 is really a showstopper. I cannot submit a paper with wrong in-text citations lest I forego using Endnote with Pages. :-/

 

Thanks - hoping for some feedback before submitting this to tech support.

 

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Re: Several bugs with Apple Pages (5.6) and EndnoteX8 combo


@Deranged_Chef wrote:

I am using Apple Pages (v5.6 on OX 10.11.6) with Endnoe X8 for assisted citations in my Pages documents. Nice thing, and works pretty reliably, if it weren't for the following bugs. I am using APA-formatted citations.

 

1. First names are showing up for a few in-text citations, which is a bug. This seems to happen for authors that are cited with more than one reference (f.e., a work from 1994 and 2003)

This is usually caused by inconsistent use of the name of those authors in the two records.  If you copy and past the author's name from one record to the other, then Endnote will stop trying to include distinguishing author rules to the same authors.  If they are two different authors (say Sam Smith and John Smith) then Endnote is correctly citing them.  

 

2. Phantom biblio: In the automatically created Bibliography list, a few references show up which are NOT cited in the text. They cannot be removed. I tried adding the wrong referene as a citation and again removing it, but the wrong reference remains in the bibliography.

I don't know how to fix this in Papers, but in word, you can edit citations and scroll thru the citations and delete them there.  

 

 

3. In the automatically created Bibliography list, some books do show up formatted incorrectly with missing italics in their title. The format is correct in Endnote's preview. I can not find any distinct difference with in the book references that could explain why some show up with italics titles, and others do not. (sorry can't help as I don't use papers)

4. In the automatically created Bibliography list, paragraph indention is missing. The format is correct in Endnote's preview. Problem can be fixed by manually changing the paragraph formatting – when done with the paper, because: Any manually formatting gets lost as soon as one in-text citation is inserted/updated.(sorry can't help as I don't use papers)

 

5. The automatically created Bibliography list cannot be manually edited. Edits are required though because Endnote's APA citations are partially incorrect, e.g. with capitalization of countries, names, acronyms in article titles, or publications with both original year and re-published year.  -- Again, Endnote has preferences (Change Case)  that will force certain words to remain capitalized, etc in the preferences. You just need to add them there.   I assume they work in Papers as well as in Word.  

 

Does anybody have ideas on how to fix these issues?

My workaround for the Bibliography for now is to copy the text, then delete the automated Bibliohraphy and paste in the text once for edits. Of course, this only works when all citations are definitely done for good. It does not help issue #2.

 

Issue #1 is really a showstopper. I cannot submit a paper with wrong in-text citations lest I forego using Endnote with Pages. :-/

 

Thanks - hoping for some feedback before submitting this to tech support.

 


 

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Re: Several bugs with Apple Pages (5.6) and EndnoteX8 combo

Hi, I know it's been a long time now, but I'm just wondering if you ever get your issues solved. 
I just started using EndNote X9 with Apple Pages and I also found the issue with book titles not showing in italics in the automatic bilbliography. Moreover, each reference entry in the bibliography appears with a weird additional line that I can't get rid of. Any idea on how to resolve these issues? Any information would be much appreciated!