09-16-2008 02:23 PM
I have a formatting problem with an in-text citation in APA (5th) with a
corporate author whose name includes a comma. In my EndNote library, I entered
the author field as:
Society of College,, National and University Libraries
This produces the correct entry on the reference list:
Society of College, National and University Libraries. (2008). Best Journal Article Ever. Association of Something Journal, 5(6), 177-179.
However, the problem emerges with the in-text citation. The citation appears as (Society of College, 2008), with the remainder of the organization's name omitted.
I could not figure out a way to modify the output style to correct the problem. I have come up with two unsatisfactory work arounds: 1) I included the second part of the organization's name as a suffix (which also necessitates omitting the year and including it in the suffix, too); 2) I entered the second part of the organization's name in a random unused field in the record and then modified the output style to
place this field after the Author field.
Does anyone have a better suggestion???
I am using EndNote X1 on a Windows Vista PC (Word 2007).
Cheers!
09-29-2008 05:28 PM
I don't have a simple solution to this problem.
On the other hand, I would prefer EndNote to continue behaving like it does now with double commas: Double commas are useful, I've found, for personal authors whose names end in a word element rather than initial. For example, "Ginneken, J. van", which should not appear as "Ginneken, J. v.", is output correctly if entered in EndNote as
Ginneken,, J. van
That is, EndNote puts everything exactly as entered after double commas into the reference list, but omits it from the in-text citation.
As a workaround for corporate bodies with subordinate parts, I would
a) enter the author in the library reference as you have, i.e.
Society of College,,bNational and University Libraries
b) edit the in-text citation in Word to exclude author, and enter the prefix as
Society of College,bNational and University Libraries,b
... where b is a blank space. If wanting to minimise typing and errors, the prefix can be copy-pasted from the preview window in EndNote, and thenthe ",b" typed after it.
If working with unformatted citations, this would be entered as
{Society of College`, National and University Libraries`, \, 2008 #xx}
... where xx is the record number. This can be safely copy-pasted in Word for subsequent citations.
Cheers,
John
10-01-2008 02:36 PM
Thanks for this comment - "...I would prefer EndNote to continue behaving like it does now with double commas..." - improving/changing this behavior is perpetually on our "to do" list. I would be very curious to hear other opinions on this - either votes to keep it as it is - or - detailed suggestions for ways this behavior might change/improve.
Jason Rollins, EndNote Product Development
jason.rollins@thomsonreuters.com
10-05-2008 12:21 PM
John-Arnold, thanks for your suggestion. Of course, I would prefer not to have to use a work-around, but fortunately, this scenario doesn't come up very often.
I hadn't tried to use double commas in a reference before this, so I can't really gauge the usefulness as it currently stands.
11-10-2008 11:30 AM
Dear all,
I have a problem with authors with commas, too. I am using Endnote X2, Microsoft Word 2007.
I have: "Ab, c and co." - as author and I want to have it handled wholly as "last name". The double comma only seems to influence the appearance of "first name", not of "last name", which is intended.
The addition of a double comma after Ab or a single comma at the end does not help at all, since it does not allow a comma to be in the last name.
Since I cannot find a workaround here, I suggest to add a handling of "last names" with a comma in it.
Thanks!
11-10-2008 06:19 PM
ToStue wrote:
Since I cannot find a workaround here, I suggest to add a handling of "last names" with a comma in it.
good idea, I posted it for you under the Suggestions forum.
http://forums.thomsonscientific.com/ts/board/message?board.id=en-suggest&thread.id=206&jump=true
11-11-2008 04:12 AM
Leanne,
excellent idea!
Thanks
04-20-2016 08:19 AM
Dear all EndNote users
who still have problems with names which have commas in them:
Try the easy, effective, and no-error work-around of inserting a lower single quotation mark instead of a comma in the position that you want the comma to appear at. This will keep both, your bibliography and your quotations perfectly correct.
This is the sign I used: ‚
which is not distinguishable from a normal comma (,) - at least, I don't see any difference in Calibri, Tahoma, and many other Fonts.
I hope this will help a lot of people who were struggling getting their quotations right. I am using X7 and the problem is still existing, so I suppose, Thomson has not done anything about it yet.
01-03-2017 09:47 AM
Nice one Fred - that's a top tip. Almost makes up for the disappoinment that in the best part of a decade, Endnote still hasn't addressed this problem...
11-29-2018 05:52 AM - edited 11-29-2018 05:55 AM
Thanks fredz, your suggestion works.
I find the exact symbol in Word, called single low-9 quotation mark, in General Punctuation subset of Symbols.
Charater code: 201A from Unicode hex
Charater code: 130 from ASCII decimal
Charater code: 0082 from ASCII hex