Hi, I do want to upgrade to X21 but I’m not going to do it and will instead transition to something like Papers or Paperpile unless I see some commitment to creating an Endnote Click extension for Safari. The Safari infrastructure changed some time ago to allow this but neither Kopernio or Clarivate ever really gave this promise to make a safari version much effort.
Is this on the horizon soon or should we just accept that it won’t happen,
Thanks, Allan.
Bumping this. No response on Click for Safari since it was Kopernio and we’ve not heard anything. The link on the Click landing page where one can upvote interest in a Safari extension is long in the tooth and no word.
I have to agree. Safari is common on macs and a lot of people still use it.
The reason why, I think, a significant number of Mac users use Safari (I would guess if not a majority than an equal number to chrome) is because everything is then in sync with safari on their other apple devices. Chrome on an iPhone or iPad is a joke and a massive resource hog on a Mac.
Whilst looking for something else (life is like that) I found the Endnote Wikipedia page and noted it said
" With the release of version 4.0 in ca. 2000, EndNote attained most of its current functionality.[11] In the same year EndNote was acquired by Institute for Scientific Information’s (ISI) Research Soft Division, part of Thomson Corporation. Since then, i.e. for the last 20 years, EndNote’s functionality has not had any substantial changes.[14]
Which is quite sad really. I realize that there have been internal changes, after all the library structure has changed, but looking at the forum people seem to be complaining that V20 and V21 are retrograde versions from V19.
I am not sure that Clarivate is listening to its users but seems more intent on listening to its marketing people who seem to be chasing something different.
Additionally some fantastic feature were removed like “Record summary”
I’ve been down this road before with Endnote back at version 10 or 11 when I was writing my diss during the VBA debacle… in 2006 or so. Very little changes.
Sadly, this seems to be true.
I suspect that, as Endnote lets you upgrade from 2 or 3 versions back, most don’t do every paid upgrade. I see many talking about upgrading from V19 to V21, so it is clear that many don’t see any urgent need to upgrade unless working with others who are, simply because of Library changes.
That should be ringing alarm bells at Clarivate. I also think that if they stopped letting you upgrade from 2 or 3 versions back, many would simply not upgrade at all.
Crickets! If Endnote click existed for Safari I would stop the search for alternative products.
I was told in another place that they didn’t support a particular browser because it only had a 10% market share… However, closer inspection shows that whilst this was true, over 30% of the tools users did use that particular browser.
Much the same here, I suspect. I was in the British Library the other day and Macs appeared to be the most common laptop on the desks. This is a non-scientific random poll, but all those users have Safari installed as standard…
Bumping. Endnote click for safari please.
So I was really hoping that Endnote 2025 would include Kopernio support for Safari. No such luck, Clarivate doesn’t appear to give much thought to their users, do they?
Looking ar the Endnote Wikipedia page it says
" With the release of version 4.0 in ca. 2000, EndNote attained most of its current functionality.[11] In the same year EndNote was acquired by Institute for Scientific Information’s (ISI) Research Soft Division, part of Thomson Corporation. Since then, i.e. for the last 20 years, EndNote’s functionality has not had any substantial changes.[14]
That was when I looked a few years ago. Since then there werre lots of complaints by V19 users that V20 (and then V21) had lost functionality they depended on in V19! Many of us were expecting to fix problems indroduced in V21 in V21 and I expect a lot of non-institutional users will not move to V25
Though some like @leanne may suggest to their insitutions not to do a site upgrade. The problem is if/when this happens Clarivate may just stop Endnote… Then what.?
I understand your frustration, but why not use Chrome or Firefox when searching for literature?
You find Reference Summary in the Refereces menu, now.
I don’t know why they have removed it from the context menu.
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I understand your frustration, but why not use Chrome or Firefox when searching for literature?
I do use Firefox, but Safari comes as standard on Macs and is reasonably secure.
I have spent over three decades developing critical systems’ software. I won’t be using Chrome.
Chrome is slow and a resource hog. I want to use the same browser across my devices for obvious reasons. Of course, Safari is my go to on phone and tablet and so that’s what I use on my Mac.
When Endnote Click was Kopernio, people were pushing for Safari support for upwards of 6-7 years (this was available on the old Kopernio discussion forum from the late 20-teens which Clarivate has finally pulled from the web) and Kopernio was saying, “soon, soon…”
Clarivate just continues to shine us on and put the same functionality of Endnote in a different wrapper every couple of years with promises of new features and that they “continue to focus on delivering responsibly designed solutions that enable researchers to push the boundaries of knowledge.” Meanwhile, they largely ignore this forum and do not respond their users…
Yes, I also wish for a Safari version.
It looks like Clarivate does not care about feature updates for there products. I wonder why they have Endnote Product Suggestions as a category.
I don’t know if you are still here, but I noticed that they reply and read if you post in X (Twitter), @EndNote
Good to know. Thanks. I gave up on Twitter many years ago, but I’ll look for an alternative social media point of connection for Clarivate.