I am using the APA 6 format. I have a book and ten different citations from the book. Each citation is on a different page. What is the best practice technique to deal with this using X3 and Pages 9? As I see it my options are:
Create a single reference for the book then enter the pages on the search screen for each reference.
The issue with this is that the page numbers are basically lost in X3.
Create a separate X3 entry for each reference in the book using the type = book. Enter the page in each individual entry’s Page field.
The problem with this is that I can’t figure out how to get the Page number to go into the citation. It seems that this field isn’t used.
A second issues is that the ten references all look the same on the search screen from Pages 9. How do I get the Notes field to be on the search screen, for example?
Thanks for your support. I know TR has taken some hits for the less than optimum cite while you write function in Pages 9. But frankly this is my only real issues. I understand the challenge to get the formatting and data to resolve when I convert to and from Word. I don’t expect that to work. And I would really like very much to be able to tell either Pages 9 or X3 to use “References” instead of “Bibliography”, but that’s a small issue.
have you tried listening to this demo on youtube? It covers a number of key steps. And If you edit your apa 6th, does it include the citated pages field? (the one I downloaded for windows does).
I will check out youtube. I determined that the citation output template in APA6 in Endnote uses the “Cited Pages” field from the Pages 09 Endnote search screen NOT the Pages field from the record. But I figured out how to change that in the template definition.
However, I still have the challenge that the search screen doesn’t show any field that differs between my many entires for a single book. I created a separate record for each reference by page.
I will check out youtube. I determined that the citation output template in APA6 in Endnote uses the “Cited Pages” field from the Pages 09 Endnote search screen NOT the Pages field from the record. But I figured out how to change that in the template definition.
However, I still have the challenge that the search screen doesn’t show any field that differs between my many entires for a single book. I created a separate record for each reference by page.
Endnote will combine references that it thinks are duplicates. If the Author, year title are exactly the same, Endnote will treat them like one reference. Endnote will not distinguish them from one another (in MS Word or Pages) You are better off using the ‘cited pages’ and not try to use record pages. (as described well in the youtube video). Trying to circumvent this is not how the software was designed. The pages field from the record should define the pages of the whole article (or the total number of pages in a book?), and not the pages you want to cite.
So one record for the book and then use the cited pages functionality.
So let me formulate my use case like this, and please instruct me how best to deal with it.
I have a book with several citations I plan to use. Each citation is related to a supportive topic in my dissertation. Therefore I have encoded each on with a code I made up, say A1, A2, etc. This code enables me to locate and use specific citations in my dissertation as needed.
Where do I track the code and specific page for each citation if not in Endnote?
If I maintain a single reference for the entire book then, use the Cited Pages field, I loose that connection to the specific cite. I would think it better to maintain that connection in Endnote. Of course I can create that connection in a spreadsheet, for example, but that seems unneccessary since Endnote is a database driven application.
So my real question here is how does the Endnote product manager, and other hard core users, deal with this use case?
I just spoke with technical support. Very professional and knowledgable fellow. Basically he made clear that Endnote does not manage intra-book citations, like quotes, for example. Therefore I plan to maintain this in a spreadsheet. I am very interested to learn how others manage this. In my case, I will maintain three fields for each quote:
The actual quoted text.
The page of the quote.
The supported point in my paper that the quote supports.
Then I will enter the Cited Page for each cite in the paper. Endnote will not maintain this bit of key information therefore I must manage it outside of Endnote or Pages 09.
As a 30+ year software systems designer and developer, I would think Endnote would be the best place to manage intra-book citation data. But, hey, who am I? Just a user…
I have a book with several citations I plan to use. Each citation is related to a supportive topic in my dissertation. Therefore I have encoded each on with a code I made up, say A1, A2, etc. This code enables me to locate and use specific citations in my dissertation as needed.
Where do I track the code and specific page for each citation if not in Endnote?
If I maintain a single reference for the entire book then, use the Cited Pages field, I loose that connection to the specific cite. I would think it better to maintain that connection in Endnote.
Well, I don’t usually do this, but I would use the notes field to record each of these specific cites and their page numbers. Then when you insert the reference, look at the notes to see which cite you want to use and copy those cited pages and paste them into the “edit citation” suffix or cited pages field, manually. The notes field is searchable so you could search for the cited pages (in the notes field) and for words in the quote (in the notes field). I don’t really have a feel for how many of these you have per book.
At the end of the day, you only want the book to appear once in the bibliography, right? This is the only way to achieve that with Endnote.