Chicago 18th error (new output style) for Book Section

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Hello, I’m an Endnote X9 user. I’m finishing my dissertation and typing it in Chicago 18th footnotes style.

By fortunate timing, I saw that Clarivate released a new output style for Chicago 18th footnotes on March 1, 2025. I downloaded it from here.

However, I’ve run into a big problem. There is an error coded into this output style. It happens for the “Book Section” reference type.

I’ve copied and pasted what is provided from the output style:
Author. “Title.” |Chap. Chapter |In Title|, Edited by Series Editor|. Publisher, Year|. https://doi.org/DOI|.

Obviously all the italics and fancy characters don’t paste into this window, but that doesn’t matter. What matters is that “Title” is wrongly repeated twice. It comes right after the Author in the beginning, and then, instead of saying “In Book Title” it says “In Title” and so it just repeats the title of the chapter or book section rather than the title of the entire book.

Now, I am able to fix this error for the BIBLIOGRAPHY by editing the template. But, I can’t fix the footnotes!! When I click on “Templates” under “Citations,” there are no templates to edit like there are for the bibliography. I searched online about how to edit footnote templates to no avail.

So, it seems to me that because Chicago footnote style is rather complex, the syntax is hard coded into the output style and cannot be edited, and it does not change even if you change the corresponding bibliography template.

So, I’m going to have to convert to plain text and manually fix every single Book Section reference. A huge pain to say the least.

I’d revert back to Chicago 17th style but the issue there is that it includes Place of Publication which 18th no longer calls for. So, I’d have to manually delete all those. (And again, I could make a custom output style that fixes this for the bibliography, but it doesn’t fix the footnotes.)

Does anybody know if there is a way to modify the output of footnotes in Chicago styles? Or, is there a way to ask Clarivate to correct this error? It seems that since it’s so new I’m the first one to it.

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if I download the output style, there are templates in footnotes ((Chicago 18th Manual of Style Footnotes" (date is 03/01/2025, in case they uploaded a newer one?). The footnote templates are separate from “citations” templates. In your records do you have the same text in the “title” field and in a “chapter” field? which way do you want them to appear? Yours shows different than the footnote template
image (footnote)

and this is the bibliography template

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if yours is different, have you changed your ref type for book section on your computer?

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Thanks for your reply leanne. I think I have it all sorted out now.

  1. I re-downloaded the Chicago 18th footnotes output style, and the error is no longer present. My best guess is that the file available for download had a few errors that were subsequently caught and corrected, since the release date was so recent (the 1st of March as you say).

  2. I now see the “Footnotes” section where there are the “Templates” for the footnotes. I can’t believe I overlooked that earlier, it is right there. I am rather a novice with using Endnote, and I used to use APA the most before switching to Chicago.

So my concerns are all resolved now.

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