Editing citations styles - citations that have have Exclude Author & Year

I am using standard APA and have modified the two citation templates present to include “Original Publication”:

Citation

(Author,|Original Publication/|Year|, p.^pp. Cited Pages|)

Citation - Author (Year)

Author (|Original Publication/|Year|, p.^pp. Cited Pages|)

My citations now are fine when inserted and the original publication date is present if defined within the reference.

But, when I use, through Microsoft Word, the Edit Citation(s) drop-down option and select Exclude Author & Year on references with page numbers previously entered, I get “(1969/, p. 130)”  but I want (and had before changing the style) “(p. 130)”

Similalry when I select Exclude Year, I get: “(Foucault,1969/, p. 130)”.

Exclude Author, however does function as intended: “(1969/2010, p. 130)”

Where can I find the style in ENDNOTE for this output format?  

Any help greatly appreciated as I am lost for ideas.

Leanne

Thasnks for your input.  Re Output Style, I think I did include it (I’m new to this, so my use of terminology may be somewhat at variance to normal use).  What I go into Edit / Output Styles/ APA Alans Version and select Citations / Templates I see (this is my updated version):

Citation

(Author,|Original Publication/|Year|, p.^pp. Cited Pages|)

Citation - Author (Year)

Author (|Original Publication/|Year|, p.^pp. Cited Pages|)

Your analysis that Remove Year simply removes the one field makes sense.  So, it maybe that I need to

  1. add my own templates such as Citation - Author (Page) - but I cant find any Add button at all
  2. find some hidden ‘system’ templates that I could alter

Alan

Instead of putting the original publication data in a separate field (“Original Publication”) it would be easier just to modify the data in the record’s Year field to include both the original publication date and current publication date (refer to attached image). Keeping the two dates together in the same (Year) will eliminate the problems you’re encountering when trying to exclude Author, Year (or both fields) and will not affect citation pagination when page numbers are present…

So just modify the citation templates to their original format (or download and install a new APA output style file) and adjust the Year field for references having original publication dates.
dual publication dates in Year field.gif

Thanks - this certainly works and is a useful work around.

But it is a work around and ENDNOTE certainly has structural issues that need to be resolved.  The issue is that the purity of the database is destroyed by having to use bad practice to cater from issues with citation insertion.  I think it is clear that:

  1.  not using Original Publication Date and having 2 froms within Date *(e.g. 1969 and 1969/2010) will limit thew ability to filer and order data - exactly why you use a database and one of the every useful features of ENDNOTE
  2. the ability to manipulate citations at a document level is limited

A far better solutrion would be:

  1. be able to define a full set of Citation templates in ENDNOTE
  2. these to be passed to document packages that offer options based on these templates

Alan