EndNote adding period to URL hyperlink in Chicago 17 template

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Hello –

EndNote is adding the period at the end of the URL inside the hyperlink for Chicago 17 footnotes. This breaks the hyperlink, causing 404 (file not found) errors.

How can I format my URLs to get around this?

Thanks.

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Hi Leanne –

I too use 9.3.3. I paste the URL in from the browser. It pastes in as a live (blue) link. In the URL field no period. In the footnote there is one, appended to the blue URL and thus breaking it.

I’ve never seen the | in my dealings.

…Mick

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Hi Leanne –

Ah Hah! I was talking about the example provided, which for me is a footnote. Here is an actual situation:

Rachman, S. , and T. McMillan. "Psychological Analyses of Courageous Performance in Military Personnel."Final Report Jul 1983–Jun 1986, Institute of Psychiatry, London (United Kingdom), 1986. https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA176275. Defense Technical Information Center (ADA176275).

It has two problems (and maybe more) that I want to fix. The first is the ending period inside the URL. It needs to go after it. If you click on it, it goes astray. If you edit the period out in your browser, it works.

The second is the Personnel."Final construction. There needs to be a space before Final.

I have never edited a template. Are there solutions there?

Thanks, Mick

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Hi Leanne –

The output is vanilla Chicago 17. Most of my references are theses. Here is the Chicago 17 Thesis footnote:

Author, “Title”| (|Degree Thesis Type, University, Year|)|, Cited Pages|, URL|, Database Provider| (Document Number)|.

There is nothing adding the period after the URL that I see so I’m still searching, not knowing what to remove. :confused:

I get the URL by visiting the database provider, copying the URL from the browser, and pasting it into the reference’s URL field. After updating, in the lower right of my library window is a blue hyperlink waiting to be clicked.

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Hi Leanne –

Thanks, but didn’t make a difference. Looking again at my example of 10/24:

Rachman, S. , and T. McMillan. "Psychological Analyses of Courageous Performance in Military Personnel."Final Report Jul 1983–Jun 1986, Institute of Psychiatry, London (United Kingdom), 1986. https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA176275. Defense Technical Information Center (ADA176275).

A Database provider (DTIC) and a document number were/are both provided; and by experiment, that very last period after (ADA176275) is still appended even when formatted with your template.

Are there other places to look?

…Mick

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Hi Leanne –

It is a stock Chicago 17th Footnote from the Thesis template.

One thing I have discovered, running Mac EndNote X9.3.3: If I go to References → URL → Open URL, the proper URL opens regardless of the period/full stop. Clicking in the example is misdirected to a Citation number not provided.

What are the necessary steps to activate a template change? Right now I make the change, save the change, quit EndNote, launch Endnote, look for the change. Mostly I don’t see it. The times that I have, I don’t know what I did differently. The EndNote guide seems to say just saving it is enough. What is your experience?

Thanks.

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Another thing I’ve just noticed is that the Chicago footnote preference set in Author Name is for “first name first.” This too is being ignored.

…Mick

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Hi Leanne –

A Zoom meeting is fine, and happy to do it, but I don’t know how to DM here. Anyway …

There is no Word document. The end result will be a collated bibliography of 100 DTIC documents at some later date.

All this comes copied from EndNote’s preview, which is labeled Chicago 17th Footnote. Note that it has a live, blue hyperlink with a period inside it. I click on it and generate an website error from the period. We’ll know we’ve succeeded when the period is black.

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This is what my reference looks like (very much like yours):

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I understand I must make a newly titled style with my edits in it. See the first image, which has original (checked), my (mrt), and your versions. If I select the mrt version (there is only one) my edits are extant inside but don’t reflect in the Preview window. Do you mean that every edit not involving an original requires a new name?

Like you, I am coming to the view that the period issue is a EndNote bug, particularly when Open URL doesn’t throw the error. But I need to get a handle on the possible first.

If you enter a degree (say Master’s) in the Degree field, you don’t need the leading space in the Thesis Type field.

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Hi Leanne –

I think I got it. I had an epiphany this morning while shaving. The title of the style is “Chicago 17th Footnote." That does not mean (and never did mean) the preview pane is showing me a footnote! In fact it is showing me a bibliographical entry and all my "non-sticky” edits were in the wrong place. That also explains why the "first-name first” issue was there. In Chicago style, bibliographic entries are last-name first, yet footnotes are first-name first. It’s one of the things I harp on with my students.

I fixed the space issue by moving “Final” to Degree and leaving “Report…” as Degree Type with no space.

Finally, the I fixed the URL issue. I changed URL|. Database to URL| Database. The sharp-eyed will note that the period is not there. I don’t care. :sunglasses:

Thank you for all your help. You have taught me a lot with an amazing amount of patience.

…best, Mick

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Now all I have to do is correct about 95 entries. One bite at a time. No rush.

Thanks again.