I am going somewhat crazy trying to figure out how to use Chicago manual of Style with endnotes, instead of footnotes in Cite while you Write in Word 2013. I chose, instead of author-date, numbered, but not numbers are not consecutive, and the endnotes don’t seem to contain page numbers even if I have inserted them. Also, I want the in text citation numbers to be in standard superscript, numbered consecutively, with the endnotes showing the proper citation information with page numbers, etc. The way it’s supposed to be in CMS for humanities. I have tried communicating with one Clarivate Analytics help person who initialy told that what I want to do can’t be done. But what I want to do is just standard.
Thanks much for your rely and for a helping a befuddled user. I have used Endnote before years ago and didn’t seem to have this issue. What I want to do is simple. I am writing a book, and I usually use CMS style endnotes, not footnotes.I want to use superscript consecutive numbering to indicate endnotes (on a separate page) at the end of the paper (but before the bibliography). Within the text of the book, I want to place endnote superscript numbers after the period in sentences, and I want them to be consecutive. I had assumed that one does this with Endnote Cite While you Write. Should I be doing this within Word and forget about Cite While You Write? I think it’s quite easy to do this in Word. I’m completely mystified why I am having so much trouble, even after corresponding with a tech support person, who didn’t seem to understand what I want to do.
If it’s better simply to use footnote style, and then try to convert to endnote style later, that’s of course a possibility, but I don’t know why it would be necessary to do it later. With the settings I have now, there is no superscript numbering (only block [1], [2}, etc., and the numbering is not consecutive (any similar citation is given the same number), and in the footnote/end note section, there is no page number that appears. If I select CMS (author-date), however, then the numbering seems to appear, but I don’t want to see that much text cluttering up my writing (i.e., in the body of the text) at this stage in the game.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, as I seem to be missing something very basic. Thanks in advance for any help.
Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to my humble plea for help! I think part of the problem in talking about endnotes is that EndNote and endnotes are obviously not the same thing. :- )
I’ve tried to attach three screen shots, from a book I wrote in 2013, titled Professor Risley and the Imperial Japanese Troupe. I believe I actually used EndNotes when writing this, which seems rather surprising to me. One shows the text body, with in-text citations. The second shows the endnotes, which for all chapters are compiled at the back of the book (separated by chapter headings). The third snip shows the form of the bibliography itself, which comes after the endnotes. I hope this helps!
Again, much obliged for your advice and understanding.
Thank you so much, again. I can see that I have really thoroughly confused. Your attached images seem to be what I am looking for. If I am parsing what you say correctly (and I may not be), it seems as though you are suggesting using Chicago 16 footnote style, but actually citing the bibliography, not using CWYW in Word, but just using Word itself to put in endnotes, instead of footnotes. Is that correct? That is sort of the conclusion that I have been coming to. That I should just use EndNote for bibliography management, and forget about CWYW. I know that it is very easy to create endnotes in Word, and also to edit for superscript format, etc., etc. Maybe EndNote is really more of a bibliography management program than an in-text citation/footnote/endnote program?
Tomorrow I will copy a couple chapters where I have been thoroughly confused by the CWYW results, see if I can clean them up, and apply your suggestions. The way my settings are now (with Chicago, numbered), citation numbers are all screwy, as EndNote seems to apply the same number for any citation that uses the same bibliographic info, even if multiple in-text cites actualy are citing the same work with different page numbers. What used to be called Ibid or Op Cit in the old days.
Hi, Leanne. Thanks so much. Just trying to parse your reply again, but are you saying that I should use Microsoft Word’s endnotes (which is very easy to use) to make the endnote citation in the text, then somehow edit that citation with EndNotes CWYW? Is that what you mean? I’m sorry to ask questions that must seem very stupid. I’m trying to set up a remote session with one of the EndNote people to guide me through this process. In the text I have now, originally created with CWYW, I see endnotes, that are not sequential and not formatted the way I want, either in the text numbering or in the endnotes section at the end of the text. When I use Word’s endnote insertion, it creates a separate group of endnotes, formatted the way I want them. I wind up with two groups of endnotes.
Luckily, I am still at the stage where I can go back and delete all the CWYW entries, and replace them with Word endnotes. Perhaps that is what I should do? For the Word endnote insertations, I can just copy the text from the EndNote library, using what appears when I select Chicago footnote style. Is this what you would suggest doing?
If there’s any website or page you would recommend reading, I’ll try to figure it out. There must be some other people who are as confused as I am, and I hate to tax your patience too much! :- )
