My Groups have gone too !!!! HELP

After a break from 3 Jan my groups have gone like in message from 13 Jan but I have folder library.data with rdb and trash subfolders. In rdf is 22 files. Which one is with groups definisions. I had a backup, but when I try to open in EndNote X4 some of them changed modification date from 03 to 17 Jan. What’s going on ??? It is more than 8000 records and more than 1000 was classified to groups. Is anyone to help me, please.

Andrew

PozdrawiAM -

I’d like to add that system is Vista.

Is it possible that this is result of an update of Vista?

Authors and Journal Term lists have gone too.

All my library files are in one subdirectory.

PozdrawiAM

It is unlikely it is due to an update of vista, unless you were updating from XP and you are saving your library in a folder that you know longer have write access to (say a folder in Program Folders).  Please also note that if you try to open a library that has no .DATA folder, Endnote may try to crate a new one, so those folders may not be the originals with the group information.  I don’t think you can rescue just one of those files to restore your groups. 

What do you mean - they change modification date?  They probably get updated when ever you open the library.  – how did you back up the library? via the compression to an enlx?  then when you unpack it, the files might also get the new date stamp. 

I would call Tech support if none of this helps.  It is extremely difficult to trouble shoot this kind of problem without a continuous dialog including the questions above and resulting questions, once those answers are received. 

Leanne, thanks.

I know that library is libname.enl and libname.DATA folder and always tried to use as a one.

I’m not sure what happend. I synchronized library on two computers - simply copied files from one to another and I saw on both computers my groups. After 2 weeks groups have gone.

I wrote to tech support and received an answer:

If you only work with the .enl file, EndNote has to attempt to rebuild the library which can fail if there are errors in the .enl file or there is data not available. You will also loose any groups or file attachments for the library if this happens.

Interesting is that I loose groups, lists of authors and journals but file attachments (more than 3400) are stil working (that would be a great loos).

Recovering of library from .DATA to empty .enl doesn’t work - it means .DATA is not good, but why, what was my mistake.

Where is an information about groups - in .enl or in .DATA. I think you have more powerfull tool to look inside tha data and recover my groups, but I started recover them by hand - it was only about 1000.

I’d like to won’t repeat my mistake.

What is a tool to synchronize library on two computers - I didn’t find any in manual (not web solution).

Is it possible to synchronize library if on one computer existing reference were changed and on the second the new reference were add ?

Regards

PozdrawiAM -

PozdrawiAM,

 

 

I am not sure how you synchronize, but you would need to ensure that the synchronization included not just the .enl file but the whole structure of the library including the .DATA folder and subfolders.  The best way to  keep the two computers in “synch” would be to first compress the library from endnote (FILE>Compress), which creates a file which in your case would be called libname .enlx and then move that and unpack it  (open it in Endnote, which will automatically unpack it) in the new location.  It gets complicated if that is in a location where the an old version is - as it needs to overwrite the libname.enl and libname.DATA folder and contents. 

 

Do you really need to update the library in both locations?  - or just in one?  If in both, you need to do the above.  However, I only ever update my library in one location.  If I want to add a new ref working on the laptop, I wait until I am on my desktop (where I have the best access anyway for retrieving the PDFs).  Inserting a “temporary version” - in say, square brackets.  That way, I never need to update the desktop, and don’t take the chance of it getting partially overwritten or accidentally overwritten by an older version.  Sometimes I will make a mini-library on the laptop and then import that into my main library, rather than moving the whole thing back.  So I might move the desktop to the laptop, but never the other way around.  I also regularly back up the .enlx file. 

amiekina wrote:

 

I’d like to won’t repeat my mistake.

What is a tool to synchronize library on two computers - I didn’t find any in manual (not web solution).

Is it possible to synchronize library if on one computer existing reference were changed and on the second the new reference were add ?